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Post by Weekend Warriors on Jan 30, 2024 17:20:38 GMT
What does everyone think about increasing the minor league roster? It seems that everyone has started using it and activating players during the season, and if we were to increase to 10 players, it would increase it's usage. It also adds another layer of management to our game. Most of the teams now have limited roster spot available for the minor league draft, so it would not be that much more of a burden on the administrators.
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Post by geoflin on Jan 30, 2024 21:06:08 GMT
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Post by jumpngeorge on Jan 30, 2024 23:35:35 GMT
If we had 10 minor league spots, it would really take Faab out of it. As to the in season replacements…. So I’m not planning to freeze Jr. Caminero on my active roster. He’s my 4th round farm pick annd I will keep him there. I don’t know what the Rays plan to do with him and I’m unlikely to get anyone in the 4th round anyway. But if he plays and approaches his minor league performance, I will activate him. Not sure it’s fair for me not only activate him, but to basically pick the best free agent available simply because, I have spot for him. The way we play now, the farm draft order is linked to standings.
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Post by shoelessjoe on Jan 31, 2024 11:09:52 GMT
Support increasing farm size 👍
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Post by geoflin on Jan 31, 2024 14:07:46 GMT
I'm not opposed to increasing the number of minor leaguers. But I like last year's suggestion much more than this one. We already dig pretty deep to get to 50 minor leaguers for each -only league, most of the available players from the top 100 prospects get taken (although the idea might make more sense for Gibson). For us to take 50 more minor leaguers I see for the most part as a waste of time as a higher percentage of them won't pan out so won't be frozen the following year anyway. Also, many of our $1 major league free agents who get rostered each year are minor leaguers who are promoted by their major league team during the year but are unowned in our leagues. This proposal would significantly reduce the number of those players available, resulting in 2 things - a reduced number of available free agents when a player goes on the IL and a reduced number of rostered players who become $5 freezes the following year.
I already commented in last year's thread and continue to support that idea. I would like to see us be able to replace a minor leaguer on our roster who we promote to the majors with another minor leaguer who was eligible for that year's minor league draft but not taken. I think he should be an E1 since he was already valued at a lower level than that in March by virtue of not having been drafted.
I think we have to go with one or the other proposal or neither, not both.
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Post by jumpngeorge on Jan 31, 2024 20:59:12 GMT
I think they to go in the empty slot. You will only be able to freeze one E slot player the next spring
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Post by geoflin on Jan 31, 2024 21:16:24 GMT
We have a rule in place for how to handle a team having more than one minor leaguer with the same salary (2 E's, etc.) so what you're saying in and of itself wouldn't preclude valuing the player as E1.
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Post by tomfool on Feb 1, 2024 17:02:03 GMT
I'm not a fan of increasing the minor league roster. The five player minor league draft already takes FOREVER. Like days and days. Expansion of the roster would also promote longer and deeper hoarding of minor league players. I like the way it is now and either there's turnover every year or you gotta wait longer for the few prospects you have to pay off. It's a nice challenge every year the way it is now.
I do kinda like as a compromise the previous idea of replacing an activated minor leaguer with a previously non drafted minor leaguer (amateur draft players newly drafted in MLB July draft excluded) and giving them E1 status. I'm also not opposed to it applying to traded or waived minor leaguers as well. Why do we have to have an empty minor league slot at all? And why do we have to keep a minor leaguer all season who just blew out his arm or tore up his knee? We should be able to replace them too in season.
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Post by Weekend Warriors on Feb 1, 2024 21:50:17 GMT
I do kinda like as a compromise the previous idea of replacing an activated minor leaguer with a previously non drafted minor leaguer (amateur draft players newly drafted in MLB July draft excluded) and giving them E1 status. I'm also not opposed to it applying to traded or waived minor leaguers as well. Why do we have to have an empty minor league slot at all? And why do we have to keep a minor leaguer all season who just blew out his arm or tore up his knee? We should be able to replace them too in season. I have to agree! I really think we should be able to keep our minor league rosters full all the time, no matter how that spot became empty. |
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Post by shoelessjoe on Feb 1, 2024 22:55:25 GMT
One of the reasons Mock has struggled for years attracting fresh blood is the resistance to change. The mixed league concept is quite a departure from I've known here and embraced it fully once I understood the concept (I'm old guys, but so are many of you).
Anyway, if you dabble in other formats on others sites -- whether FanTrax, Yahoo, etc. -- the so-called "dynasty" leagues are full throttle, many with minor league teams with as few as 10 players though many are at 15-20 and more.
I have been a member of an 18-team mixed league with a salary cap that drafts strictly from the pool of minor leaguers under contract MLB teams and held as many as 80 players at one time. Some open candidacy to the baseball universe which includes international, college and high school players.
While I am not suggesting we jump the shark, the reaction to the increased interest among fans has resulted in more information than ever through several strong, dependable media outlets and websites. Baseball America, The Athletic, Fangraphs and others have deep, well-researched reports listing hundreds of legitimate prospects including the top international players before they sign contracts and they handicap MLB's amateur draft .
All this to say, there is an opportunity to enhance our game rather than resist change.
That being said, I second Rick.
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Post by geoflin on Feb 1, 2024 23:16:31 GMT
I'm in favor of the concept of keeping our minor league rosters full but we need to be able to move relatively quickly to get the rules in place before our drafts which begin in 6 weeks.
Minor league slots which open due to the owner promoting to the majors or trading to another team are easy. But waiving a minor leaguer to replace with another requires more thought. If we allow minor leaguers to be waived and replaced, how do we incorporate that into our current waiver rules? Would waiving a minor leaguer count as one of that week's charged transactions or would it somehow be a separate process? Should there be any limit on the number of minor league players waived each year or during any specific time period? Are there any circumstances which might prohibit a minor leaguer from being waived? Everyone please tell us your thoughts.
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Post by shoelessjoe on Feb 1, 2024 23:38:30 GMT
Should there be any limit on the number of minor league players waived each year or during any specific time period? Are there any circumstances which might prohibit a minor leaguer from being waived? Everyone please tell us your thoughts. Teams should be permitted to waive and replace players before the season and to replace them as they are promoted. I do not encourage full-fledged, unchecked cut and replace during the season. |
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Post by geoflin on Feb 1, 2024 23:56:25 GMT
Should there be any limit on the number of minor league players waived each year or during any specific time period? Are there any circumstances which might prohibit a minor leaguer from being waived? Everyone please tell us your thoughts. Teams should be permitted to waive and replace players before the season and to replace them as they are promoted. I do not encourage full-fledged, unchecked cut and replace during the season. What exactly do you mean by before the season? Now? After the minor league draft? Sometimes that doesn't end before the season begins. My original thought was in agreement with your last sentence. Also, Tommy proposed what appears to be the idea of being able to replace a minor leaguer who is seriously injured. Should this be different from the idea of waiving minor leaguers? If we decide against waiving minor leaguers should Tommy's idea apply to any minor leaguer who goes on the IL or only in cases where we know the injury is long-term? |
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Post by Weekend Warriors on Feb 3, 2024 23:29:48 GMT
Teams should be permitted to waive and replace players before the season and to replace them as they are promoted. I do not encourage full-fledged, unchecked cut and replace during the season. What exactly do you mean by before the season? Now? After the minor league draft? Sometimes that doesn't end before the season begins. My original thought was in agreement with your last sentence. Also, Tommy proposed what appears to be the idea of being able to replace a minor leaguer who is seriously injured. Should this be different from the idea of waiving minor leaguers? If we decide against waiving minor leaguers should Tommy's idea apply to any minor leaguer who goes on the IL or only in cases where we know the injury is long-term? I feel that we should not allow a waiver of a minor league player, but if one is either hurt or is promoted, then we should allow a replacement player to be claimed. Right now, owners have a chance to waive their minor leaguer by not freezing them when frozen rosters are submitted. |
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Post by tomfool on Feb 5, 2024 16:15:32 GMT
Also if there ends up being ten minor league spots would there be two A5's, two B4's, etc or five extra E1's? I personally would prefer the latter as I rarely have even one minor leaguer in the -only leagues worth an A5 spot, much less two. And ten spots seems like we'd be going pretty deep into A and rookie ball players; who knows if they'll ever pan out.
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