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Post by joeizzo on Mar 23, 2021 3:49:37 GMT
Something that I have been considering is abolishing the use of the AVL lists for our league auctions. Crosley has done a great job putting the lists together each year but there are usually a player or two that slip through unnoticed until someone nominates them during an auction.
Personally, I think the lists are unnecessary. Any decent draft software package shows you major league AB or IP. If a player has no AB/IP then he is not eligible for nomination.
Eliminating the AVL list would also eliminate the confusion that occurred when a player was not on the AVL list during the early drafts but was added later in the period between the first and last auction.
I am interested in feedback from everyone on this but especially those that don't use a draft software package like Rotolab or Rotowire. Do you rely on the AVL lists?
Thanks,
Joe
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Post by geoflin on Mar 23, 2021 13:29:46 GMT
I do use Rotolab but I agree with this idea for a few reasons. First, it seems like a lot of unnecessary work for Crosley. It should be the responsibility of each owner to know who is eligible for nomination based upon at least 1 AB/IP, just as it is the responsibility of each owner to know which minor leaguers he can freeze based upon 130/50 AB/IP. If a questionable player is nominated it shouldn't take more than a minute for the auctioneer or one of the league participants to look him up to see if he is eligible. Even if this happens 2 or 3 times per auction, the amount of time added is minimal, particularly compared to the amount of time it must take Crosley to put the lists together. And the fact that Crosley may unintentionally omit somebody shouldn't make that player ineligible for nomination. One example is Tom Murphy C Sea, who I noted in this year's AVL thread as missing but whom Crosley himself drafted. Nobody objected because we all knew he was eligible under the rules except for the fact that Crosley omitted him from the AVL's.
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Post by tomfool on Mar 23, 2021 15:40:32 GMT
I don't use draft software and never have (maybe I should though and maybe I would win more!). I do use the AVAIL lists and am super appreciative of Crosley 's hard work every year (I would pay him for the lists!). I don't mind that they are incomplete. A couple names are easier for me to add than every name. But, I'm kind of old school: I copy and print out hard copies of his lists for the drafts; invaluable to me. But, I would understand if the lists went away, and I had to get with the times. I'm not sure where to get a list elsewhere without the software. Or what's the software? lol. I could use some guidance and advice on what's good, affordable software that is easily interpreted by a paper pirate 20th century boy like myself, or where to go or print or compile lists etc.
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Post by geoflin on Mar 23, 2021 19:06:57 GMT
You could compile the lists using OnRoto.
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Post by Crosley on Mar 23, 2021 20:17:09 GMT
I wouldn't trust OnRoto any more than I would trust me. The two major advantages of the lists that I see are 1) that it (mostly) prevents delays in-auction and 2) ensures that everyone is working with the same list. Rotolab is the software of choice for most owners, but Alex and I use Rotochamp because it's web-based and we can share and update the same account and others use no software at all. The REAL solution to this is for Crosley to start the process of building the lists much earlier. It was a last-minute mad dash this year to complete the NL lists before Snider and the AL lists before Sparky. There's no reason for that to happen.
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