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Post by jumpngeorge on Apr 6, 2022 0:40:55 GMT
A lot of expert leagues use on base percentage rather that batting order. I do think it is a better measure of a players worth. Could we consider changing to ONP rather than BA next season?
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Post by joeizzo on Apr 6, 2022 0:44:43 GMT
We had discussed this a few years back but it didn't pass a vote of the membership. Maybe it's time to try again for 2023?
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Post by waters96 on Apr 6, 2022 18:22:28 GMT
No. I know all the players by batting average. I like the idea that we’re old school, not cool.
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Post by klutzrick on Apr 6, 2022 20:08:22 GMT
I much prefer OBP. It's a better assessment of player`s true worth.
While higher BA guys often have high OBP, there are mid to low BA guys who have great OBP skills (most notably Joey Gallo, the current iteration of Joey Votto, Jonathan India, and Myles Straw). Getting on base by any means is perhaps the most important batting skill a player has. Shouldn't we recognize that?
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Post by shif on Apr 7, 2022 18:51:06 GMT
One of the reasons mocksports is shrinking is that its rules are too complex and quite difficult for newcomers to absorb. In my opinion, we should not make it more forbidding. Some of our members use industry projections to rank players and some of those projections are not flexible enough to include obp. I agree that obp is better than batting average in assessing a player's worth on the field. The question is whether that should make a significant difference to the game we play.
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Post by jumpngeorge on Apr 8, 2022 10:35:17 GMT
I agree we should definitely beef up our recruiting efforts. We have a great game and finding new blood is important. I don’t think OBP would act as a barrier though
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Post by geoflin on Jun 3, 2022 12:55:38 GMT
The Rules Committee is now considering this question. We want the input of as many owners as possible. Please vote for your choice in the poll and also leave any comments you might have. I have moved the comments from the previous poll to this one and locked the previous poll in order to avoid confusion.
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Post by Weekend Warriors on Jun 3, 2022 13:24:09 GMT
And while we are at it, what about using FIP instead of ERA?
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Post by joeizzo on Jun 3, 2022 14:16:59 GMT
And while we are at it, what about using FIP instead of ERA? Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt the average fantasy baseball player knows what FIP is and how to interpret it. OBP is much more widely used and understood. We might need a little Fanalytics education before we propose such a change.
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Post by waters96 on Jun 3, 2022 14:31:07 GMT
Changing to OBP will probably drive me out because after playing all the years of with batting average, I know nothing about OBP. The rankings systems I use don’t project for OBP. We should get rid of wins and steals, too, if we’re striving for perfection because wins mean absolutely nothing, and steals are rarely attempted in the modern game. Anyway, I like the tradition of our current categories and hope they remain the same. The goal isn’t to perfectly reflect the real game, but to have fun, and I like our current categories.
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Post by tomfool on Jun 3, 2022 15:22:42 GMT
OBP is not some new fangled stat, it's OBA = it counts hits and walks and HBP too...very simple and if it's not old school it's old as hell in my opinion...my dad was looking at it in the 80's for his stratomatic games....it's not some crazy new stat none of us know or don't want to know like FIP or FABIP or OPS + or even OPS or what the heck ever, and switching to it is not some move to open the floodgates for these wacky new stats, or getting rid of wins or steals, or era, c'mon...its easy and it measures the player's worth better...i'm ok with either actually but losing our minds cuz someone suggested it is a bit dramatic....it is baised tho cuz all gallo owners (which i am not) will want the change tho lollllzzzz
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Post by mikemanolakes on Jun 3, 2022 22:23:28 GMT
I'm in favor of keeping BA because current players with established salaries may become overvalued or undervalued with a switch to OBP. However, if any new leagues are formed in the future, it may be worthwhile starting them with the OBP stat.
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Post by toml on Jun 3, 2022 23:43:17 GMT
Frankly, it doesn’t matter to me. I play in leagues with AVE and others with OBP, and it doesn’t make a difference to me
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Post by chuck on Jun 4, 2022 15:43:01 GMT
I voted no pretty much for the same reasons given by the "no" voters above. Plus I don't feel a walk is as good as a hit, contrary to expert opinions.
Chuck
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Post by jon7 on Jun 6, 2022 1:29:54 GMT
Everyone can understand average as a measure.
Jon
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