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Post by jumpngeorge on Jun 29, 2021 16:57:11 GMT
I think we should revisit how we handle Ohtani. If we adopt this rule. Ohtani should not be freezable because his value will radically change. Basically I propose that Ohtani use in our game should reflect how he is used in real baseball. Let him occupy both DH and pitcher slots. If we adopt this rule, he will almost certainly be a $50 player. If he has an injury that means he can’t play both ways, teams could reserve him for the one he couldn’t play…documented injuries only… you shouldn’t be able to reserve the pitcher between starts.
Ohtani is an incredibly valuable asset. Why are we making decide with role to use him in?
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Post by Weekend Warriors on Jul 5, 2021 0:05:54 GMT
I like the idea.
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Post by waters96 on Jul 13, 2021 16:05:00 GMT
If we throw him back in the pool, the Ohtani owner would take an unwarranted loss on a player he already owns This is always the problem when you make middle of the game rules changes. I have no problem implementing this rule in the future for the next Ohtani.
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Post by geoflin on Jul 13, 2021 17:25:43 GMT
I agree with Bob's thought that we shouldn't make Ohtani unfreezable for his current owners (I am not one of them). Also, if we were to allow 2 way players we would have to have a method to divide salary between the hitter portion and the pitcher portion, otherwise it wouldn't be possible to reserve and replace them in one role while keeping them active in the other without running into possible salary cap issues. I would prefer, if we change things, to make Ohtani draftable separately as both a hitter and as a pitcher, by either the same owner or by 2 different owners assuming OnRoto can handle this. His current owners would be able to freeze him in his current role and he would be a free agent in his added role.
There is another player, Brendan McKay, currently owned in some leagues, in a similar situation should he ever become a viable major leaguer so if we are thinking about changing a rule we should include him in our thinking.
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Post by Crosley on Jul 28, 2021 20:30:31 GMT
Recognizing two Ohtanis - a frightening thought for real-world AL teams - makes the most sense to me. I've always thought that the current Ohtani rule of allowing an owner to switch him from pitcher to hitter (or vice versa) only once per season seemed too restrictive. The intent behind that was to save LAs from having to keep up with a couple of dozen Ohtani transactions each year. Allowing him to exist separately in both roles on either one or two rosters seems a fair solution.
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Post by shoelessjoe on Aug 4, 2021 14:07:45 GMT
Recognizing two Ohtanis - a frightening thought for real-world AL teams - makes the most sense to me. I've always thought that the current Ohtani rule of allowing an owner to switch him from pitcher to hitter (or vice versa) only once per season seemed too restrictive. The intent behind that was to save LAs from having to keep up with a couple of dozen Ohtani transactions each year. Allowing him to exist separately in both roles on either one or two rosters seems a fair solution. Agreed
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Post by jumpngeorge on Aug 30, 2021 1:43:14 GMT
How would feel about making Ohtani a topper if we change the rules? If you make him a two way player, that makes much more valuable. It wouldn’t be fair to other players. I just strongly believe making folks pick pitcher or hitter while ignoring the awesomeness of his being both is wrong. We would have to come up with a way to deal with an injury that prevents him from doing both. We wouldn’t want players to reserve the pitcher between starts. I think something like “If ESPN or the Athletic says he can’t pitch, he could reservable on the pitching side.”
Next best approach would be to auction Ohtani the pitcher and hitter separately
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